Comments on: The Poison of the Democratic Party http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/ Using Creativity to Build Better Communities Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:51:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jolly Lama http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Jolly Lama Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:49:55 +0000 http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/#comment-47 Very interesting article... leaves me wondering if we'll ever see a genuine cadidate in the White House ever again. Yes, I do believe we've had some (come on, he wasn't perfect but, Carter was and still is a very genuine man). When you reach this level of power will you be entirely free of corruption? If so, you will die. Very interesting article… leaves me wondering if we’ll ever see a genuine cadidate in the White House ever again. Yes, I do believe we’ve had some (come on, he wasn’t perfect but, Carter was and still is a very genuine man).

When you reach this level of power will you be entirely free of corruption? If so, you will die.

]]> By: BloggerRadio.com http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/comment-page-1/#comment-46 BloggerRadio.com Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:52:42 +0000 http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/#comment-46 To: 'cvmacek' You attack the attackers over their membership in the Corporatocracy, but offer only alternatives which are already quitters/drop-outs. Which in effect is no-solution at all! Then you lie about Obama taking 'dirty money' when he returned the 'dirty money' he's received while Clinton continues to take any she can get. Then you lie about Obama's 'blueprint'. I've been to Obama's web-site and I find plenty of detail. As for 'democratic candidates that actually affect change' you name totally ineffective examples. What EXACTLY has Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment actually accomplished? Where's the House of Representatives actual IMPEACHMENT stand today??? Nowhere. Where is his 'drafted' universal health-care plan TODAY? Apparently, you are satisfied with 'inititives', 'drafts', 'plans' because not a single example you provided have made an ounce of difference to date. Clinton is entirely OWNED and OPERATED by the Corporatocracy. A Rupert Murdoch shill. A real Republican "Goldwater Girl" in college; a board member of Wal-Mart for years. Clinton is a FREE-Trader versus a FAIR Trader. Clinton is a liar (sniper fire? what sniper fire?), Hillary has belonged to and been praying with the Senate's ULTRA-Conservative breakfast club for years. A vote for Hillary is a vote for lying-Republican-lite. To: ‘cvmacek’

You attack the attackers over their membership in the Corporatocracy, but offer only alternatives which are already quitters/drop-outs. Which in effect is no-solution at all!

Then you lie about Obama taking ‘dirty money’ when he returned the ‘dirty money’ he’s received while Clinton continues to take any she can get.

Then you lie about Obama’s ‘blueprint’. I’ve been to Obama’s web-site and I find plenty of detail.

As for ‘democratic candidates that actually affect change’ you name totally ineffective examples. What EXACTLY has Dennis Kucinich’s articles of impeachment actually accomplished? Where’s the House of Representatives actual IMPEACHMENT stand today??? Nowhere. Where is his ‘drafted’ universal health-care plan TODAY?

Apparently, you are satisfied with ‘inititives’, ‘drafts’, ‘plans’ because not a single example you provided have made an ounce of difference to date.

Clinton is entirely OWNED and OPERATED by the Corporatocracy. A Rupert Murdoch shill. A real Republican “Goldwater Girl” in college; a board member of Wal-Mart for years. Clinton is a FREE-Trader versus a FAIR Trader. Clinton is a liar (sniper fire? what sniper fire?), Hillary has belonged to and been praying with the Senate’s ULTRA-Conservative breakfast club for years.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for lying-Republican-lite.

]]> By: cvmacek http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/comment-page-1/#comment-39 cvmacek Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:29:28 +0000 http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/#comment-39 I like your article, however, it could be noted like you point out Hillary represents New York in the senate though she's not from there, Obama represents Illinios and he's not from there. It's easy to attack the Clintons because there is an eight-year presidential legacy to scrutinize, but scrutinize Obama and you'll see Barack accepts dirty money, and has been given a ridiculously unbalanced amount of media coverage. Obama has been set-up by the media to be where he is now. If you read Barack's "Blueprint for Change", Clinton is dead-on when she attacks his lack of specifics, and there is no way he could implement everything he says. If Barack was really all that change-a-riffic, he could be writing and proposing legislation right now in the senate, but he's not. Barack's call for "change" is very appealing, and the Bush administration really helps that sentiment, but other democratic candidates that actually affect positive change, like Dennis Kucinich (who introduced articles of impeachment, drafted a non-profit universal healthcare plan, and drafted a plan to withdraw troops from Iraq), as well as Mike Gravel (who started the National Initiative, and who loudly opposed the Vietnam War while in the senate many years ago), these guys who actually do stuff to affect positive change for the good of the American people are shut out by the mass media, and we're fed Obama's bullshit change message. There is nothing in Obama's "Blueprint for Change" he couldn't try implementing now as a senator, which is why I doubt the integrity of him and his message of "change". -Curtis Macek I like your article, however, it could be noted like you point out Hillary represents New York in the senate though she’s not from there, Obama represents Illinios and he’s not from there. It’s easy to attack the Clintons because there is an eight-year presidential legacy to scrutinize, but scrutinize Obama and you’ll see Barack accepts dirty money, and has been given a ridiculously unbalanced amount of media coverage. Obama has been set-up by the media to be where he is now. If you read Barack’s “Blueprint for Change”, Clinton is dead-on when she attacks his lack of specifics, and there is no way he could implement everything he says. If Barack was really all that change-a-riffic, he could be writing and proposing legislation right now in the senate, but he’s not. Barack’s call for “change” is very appealing, and the Bush administration really helps that sentiment, but other democratic candidates that actually affect positive change, like Dennis Kucinich (who introduced articles of impeachment, drafted a non-profit universal healthcare plan, and drafted a plan to withdraw troops from Iraq), as well as Mike Gravel (who started the National Initiative, and who loudly opposed the Vietnam War while in the senate many years ago), these guys who actually do stuff to affect positive change for the good of the American people are shut out by the mass media, and we’re fed Obama’s bullshit change message. There is nothing in Obama’s “Blueprint for Change” he couldn’t try implementing now as a senator, which is why I doubt the integrity of him and his message of “change”.
-Curtis Macek

]]> By: Ramla Alethea http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Ramla Alethea Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:05:06 +0000 http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/#comment-38 Neither Clinton or Obama are advocating true universal healthcare -- a single payer, everyone is covered system. Obama wants to subsidize insurance and Hillary is simply going to mandate that you have to buy insurance, much like auto insurance. Both take contributions from the medical-industrial complex so I wouldn't expect free health care for your children regardless. It's going to take a lot of grassroots pressure not a Democratic president to accomplish that. Neither Clinton or Obama are advocating true universal healthcare — a single payer, everyone is covered system.

Obama wants to subsidize insurance and Hillary is simply going to mandate that you have to buy insurance, much like auto insurance. Both take contributions from the medical-industrial complex so I wouldn’t expect free health care for your children regardless.

It’s going to take a lot of grassroots pressure not a Democratic president to accomplish that.

]]> By: art4life http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/comment-page-1/#comment-37 art4life Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:21:10 +0000 http://www.thirdeyemag.com/nonfiction/current-events/the-poison-of-the-democratic-party/#comment-37 but if Clinton is elected president, i believe she has the best chances of getting the USA universal health care, and even if she is an awful present and does nothing else but that, i dont think it would ever be reversed. And 4 years of a shitty clinton, is worth free health care for my children. but if Clinton is elected president, i believe she has the best chances of getting the USA universal health care, and even if she is an awful present and does nothing else but that, i dont think it would ever be reversed. And 4 years of a shitty clinton, is worth free health care for my children.

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